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Thursday, September 29, 2005
6:49 PM
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Me too - have Vx, then m500 but still looking for slim and light WiFi device. But I look on Linux boxes...
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Anonymous User
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Friday, September 30, 2005
2:31 PM
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My Palm m505 is getting old, and its battery life isn't what it once was. I've been waiting and waiting for a Palm device with Wi-Fi (SanDisk promised a Wi-Fi SDIO card for the m5xx series, but reneged, and it would have taken up the expansion slot anyway), and the best they've come up with is the Tungsten C, which has a thumb keyboard that I wouldn't want instead of an expanded screen.
The Tungsten T5 sounds good, but seems not to have executed its concepts very well, and the lack of built-in Wi-Fi hurts it badly. I am reading that the screen appears washed out compared to the T3 -- this is bad, as washed-out graphics is one of the biggest problems with the m505; one would think they had learned their lesson there.
Palm looks to have really shot themselves in the foot with the T5; let us hope the wound isn't fatal. I still prefer PalmOS and hope that there will still be upcoming Palm handhelds (perhaps this rumored Palm TX) that actually give people what they want.
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Anonymous User
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Friday, September 30, 2005
3:17 PM
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I am hopeful that the Tungsten X (much romoured and with lot's of photos) has what it takes as a wifi enabled, decent device that corrects the bad mistakes of the t5.
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Anonymous User
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Saturday, October 01, 2005
6:48 AM
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Does anyone know of an easily downloadable and installable PalmOS 5.x emulator like we had for PalmOS 4.x? (emulator or simulator) :) as far as you can test softwares on it without installing them on your handheld.
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Anonymous User
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Saturday, October 01, 2005
10:17 AM
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I am a long time PalmOS user who's considering to switch to PocketPC too (for my next device, not anytime soon). I've been using PalmOS devices since my first pda, which was a Handspring, 4 shades of gray, then I moved to Clie SJ30, which was an excellent device, with wonderful design, compact, light, and usable. Now I own a T3. Even now sometimes I miss the look and feel of SJ30 and I think to myself I wish they could put a PalmOS 5 device in that body. A 300MHz device with Bluetooth in the body of a Clie SJ30 would be a great PDA.
I'm still a PalmOS user but here are some pros (from my point of view) for PocketPC platform of today:
-The very idea of running a program on a 68K emulator in PalmOS 5 devices bothers me :( I don't know what percentage of the code of a program compiled for PalmOS 5.x is run on 68K emulator, but I would be happy to know that there are some programs that have been compiled and run 100% in native ARM.
- Multi-tasking, even in the simplest form of it. Sometimes I need to switch back and forth between two or more applications to copy/paste, lookup some data. Specially while entering a data you might end up loosing some part of what you had just entered before switching, or end up with having entered something wrong. Obviously switching focus is different from closing an application.
- PocketPC devices look snappier to me while writing freehand on them (even when I tried the VGA Toshiba or iMate JAM cellphone). This is also notable in block-recognizer.
- Number of decent applications for PocketPC platform is rising everyday. I guess now there are a lot more free software (like dictonary/localization ) for PocketPC, but they are really expensive on PalmOS devices. Once it was exactly the opposite. I've heard we have the same situation for multimedia softwares. Also writng in multiple languages is a headache on PalmOS. I've heard that PocketPC supports Unicode (is that true by the way?). That should allow me to take notes in different languages when needed (native is something else ;) no translation/simulatoin!)
- And certainly I prefer the 1.3 aspect ratio of PocketPCs to 1.5 of Palms. I don't know the explanation but I like the square screens more than rectangular ones on PDAs, if no choice I'll go for 1.3 rather than 1.5.
I don't know about up until now, but let's face it seems nowadays (specially with WM5) Microsoft offers a better product overall.
The perfect PDA, something impossible, :) would be a device with VGA screen and Bluetooth/WiFi with the size and form factor of HP 1950 devices.
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Saturday, October 01, 2005
10:35 AM
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Oh and I forgot to add the price tag of $300 (or less) :))
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Barry Cook
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Sunday, October 02, 2005
8:04 AM
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Had a m105 then a TE - both fine but increasingly limited. And Palm seemed to have lost it's way - both with Support and Devices.
Bought a Dell Axim X50 just before the X51 released and got it for $CDN110.00 less than a T5 with wi-fi card bundle. With that I get wi-fi built-in, native support of a range of software without the need of independent conduits and Support that last a *full* year and includes nesxt-day replacement if needed. And I've found (mostly freeware) replacements to most of my favourite Palm programs.
Granted, I lose a bit of internal user-available memory (not an issue mostly as I can now run/store programs from the SD card) and I hate Outlook as a PIM/email program - but the benefits seem to outweigh the drawbacks so far.
I'll miss the 'idea' of Palm but can't say I'll miss the current 'reality'.
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Tuesday, October 04, 2005
6:20 AM
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I used Pal since the original one came out but made the change about a year ago to the PPC platform. The main reason for the change was the ability to multitask. I used my ppc as a gps and also like to listen to mp3 at the same time. That was just not possible with a Palm. As I have played around with my ppc I have learned to love it more than the Palm platform.
Jim
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Tuesday, October 04, 2005
12:44 PM
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I'm pondering a switch to PPC as well; I've resisted only because I hate Windows. I started with a Palm III, moved on to Handera 330 then a Tungsten C and loved all of them (even the keyboard on the C was better than you think). Now I have a LifeDrive and it's driving me nuts. The 0.5-1 second delay (no, it isn't 6 seconds, but it's still longer than my Palm III) is like a Chinese water torture, and the thing crashes all the time. And each crash leads to a five-minute-long reboot, which makes paper and pencil more convenient for quick notes. I'm waiting to see what the Tungsten X is like, but if it doesn't deliver, I'm converting to the Dark Side.
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Tuesday, October 04, 2005
12:44 PM
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I'm pondering a switch to PPC as well; I've resisted only because I hate Windows. I started with a Palm III, moved on to Handera 330 then a Tungsten C and loved all of them (even the keyboard on the C was better than you think). Now I have a LifeDrive and it's driving me nuts. The 0.5-1 second delay (no, it isn't 6 seconds, but it's still longer than my Palm III) is like a Chinese water torture, and the thing crashes all the time. And each crash leads to a five-minute-long reboot, which makes paper and pencil more convenient for quick notes. I'm waiting to see what the Tungsten X is like, but if it doesn't deliver, I'm converting to the Dark Side.
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Wednesday, October 05, 2005
1:57 AM
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I've been suprised by the comments on the stability of the Palm OS prior to the T5. I had three Sony Clies over about three years and one of the main reasons for switching to the Symbian OS was the weekly crashing / soft reset.
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Friday, October 07, 2005
7:09 PM
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I decided to give the PocketPC/Windows Moibile platform another try just recently. Today I shipped my Axim X51v back to Dell. Even with wifi and bluetooth turned off and the device running in energy saver mode, a third of a day of light work usage killed half of the battery. I was also very disappointed in the lag time in launching PIM apps. I had thought that with the increased launch times for NVFS Palms (I use a T|5) and continued improvements with Windows Mobile that I wouldn't notice a speed hit. However, I quickly got tired of waiting for the Axim to launch the Notes app. Transcriber has gotten much better, but still not sccurate enough to be faster than Grafitti or Block Recognizer. The system-wide multitasking and variety of Today screen plugins were great, but I would be hard pressed to get through an average day on a single charge. The size of the device at first consideration was decent, but to add even the thinest of cases for adequate screen protection made the device pretty bulky for shirt-pocket carrying. Activesync didn;t give me any problems (though I've always been one of the lucky ones who never seemed to get bitten by Activesync bugs, even back in the earlier days), but software installation was still annoyingly convoluted and slow compared to PalmOS devices.
All things considered, I'll stick with PalmOS for now-- it's still much more efficient a paltform, and it's efficiency translates into fast responseiveness, ease of use, and battery endurance in real-world usage. Granted, I didn;t have to go with a VGA device on the Windows Mobile side, but I've never been a fan of the qVGA resolution-- it gives UI's a creept 16-bit Windows feel to me. i've heard many complaints on the message boards about the T|5 being unstable, but I run a patched device and only install NVFS-comopatible software and don't have any problems. I have a feeling that as developers continue to update their apps for the new PalmOS memory structure, people will notice an 'increase' in stability in the platform.
If you are a light organizer user, the X51v will probably be a great choice. However, if you use your handheld extensively throught the day, it will leave you high and dry sooner rather than later. It never hurts to check out new options, but be sure you keep your receipt.
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Jim Travis
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Friday, October 07, 2005
11:20 PM
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I use business applications much more frequently than I use the PIM apps. Although the T5 stability has improved since the ROM update, it still crashes too often even sometimes when using apps supplied with the device. I do use the latest versions of all my business third party apps. I hope for Palm's sake that the T5's stability and compatibility are improved as more system and third party updates are released.
I have an Axim x50V and love the quality of the VGA display. I do notice that with some apps my 400 MHZ HP4155 has faster response and execution times than the 624 MHZ x50V. The x50V does have that really impressive screen, and I am impressed with the quality of the screen everytime I use it. For the way I use my PDA, I have found the Palm OS devices and Pocket PC's to have similar battery times.
Since my problems with the T5, my favorite Palm OS device is the Sony Clie TH55, UK version (both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi). I shed a tear the day Sony stopped producing Palm OS devices for the US.
One of my critical daily functions is the upload/download of data files to/from NAS devices. All my Pocket PC devices perform this function flawlessly with the supplied file explorer. I have tried numerous Palm OS apps to do the same function, and none have been problem free.
I have owned 16 Palm OS devices, and obviously liked the platform a lot. As indicated in my original posting, the T5 problems resulted in my giving the competing platform an extended test, and the Pocket PC is my preferred daily device. If I used the PIM apps more frequently, and business apps less frequently, maybe I would feel differently. For my needs, the Pocket PC is a better choice.
Good luck with the T5.
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Saturday, October 08, 2005
8:50 AM
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Jim,
For those of us newbies, could you please explain the upload/download process using NAS devices? Are you accessing your office computer wirelessly or is it via USB? I currently use a Treo 650. Thanks.
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Anonymous User
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Saturday, October 08, 2005
8:50 AM
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Jim,
For those of us newbies, could you please explain the upload/download process using NAS devices? Are you accessing your office computer wirelessly or is it via USB? I currently use a Treo 650. Thanks.
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Jim Travis
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Saturday, October 08, 2005
11:54 AM
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Hi:
A Network Attached Storage (NAS) is a stand alone hard drive that includes network connectivity and web interface. Because the NAS includes network connectivity and a web interface, it does not require a computer to operate, only to do initial set-up, and maintenance. Using the web browser from your computer, you set-up the device including: creating folders to hold shared data, creating users/groups, and assigning read/write access by individual users/groups to the shared folders. You could get the same functionality by sharing folders on your computer's hard drive, but the NAS eliminates the need to keep your computer on, and the need to use space on your local drive for network storage.
The NAS is attached via ethernet cable to your network switch. Any device that can access other devices attached to the switch can access the NAS as long as the device understands Windows networking protocols. Since my Apple Airport router/wireless access point is also attached to the network switch, I can access the NAS from all my hard wired and wireless computers and PDA's. I use Wi-Fi to access the NAS from both the Palm and Pocket PC platforms. I also have a Bluetooth access point on the netowrk, but Wi-Fi is much faster.
My Windows computers and Pocket PC's communicate flawlessly with the NAS. Depending on the version of NAS firmware and Mac OS, you may need an application like DAVE when using a Macintosh.
Palm OS PDA's do not natively support the NAS, you need a third party networking app. I have tried several networking apps, and am currently using FilePoint. The Treo may have a more robust networking solution than the Palm OS PDA's, and may not need the third party app. Downloading files from the NAS to a Palm OS PDA is no problem. There is a problem with uploading. I have two NAS, both the same brand (Tritton - www.trittonsales.com). With the original NAS, I could upload files from the Palm OS PDA's only if the file was already present on the NAS. If the file was not already on the NAS, I would get an error. Ironically, sometimes I would beam or Bluetooth a file from the Palm to the Pocket PC and then to the NAS. Once the file was present on the NAS, I could upload updates to that file directly from the Palm OS devices to the NAS. It was not as much a pain as it may appear, because most of my activity is uploading updates to existing data files.
I purchased a second NAS device, same Tritton brand, to increase the amount of storage and also to have redundant storage of important files on both NAS's. My new NAS had a newer version of firmware. My first test was uploading a new file from a Palm OS PDA to the new NAS because that was the problem I had with the old NAS. It worked fine. I thought great, now I can update the firmware on the old NAS, and have no problem uploading new files to either NAS from a Palm OS device. Not so fast Jim. My second test was uploading an update to an existing file to the new NAS (worked fine on the old NAS). As you have probably guessed by now, I can not upload an update to an existing file to the new NAS from a Palm OS device. Bottom line is I kept the old firmware version on the old NAS, and upload to the appropriate NAS from the Palm OS device depending on whether the file is new or an update. The uploading problem was present with all Palm OS third party networking apps I tried; therefore, I suspect, but do not know, that the problem is with the Palm OS or a conflict between the Palm OS and my particular brand of NAS. I have contacted the NAS and third party apps vendors, but no fix yet. The uploading problem is with all Palm OS PDA's I have, not just the T5. Again, the Pocket PC can upload/download new/updated files to/from both NAS devices without any problems.
Even with the upload problems from Palm OS PDA's to NAS, the NAS is a great data sharing solution for me because I have so many Palm OS and Pocket PC devices, use a cross platform database app, use Office data files (which both Palm OS devices and PPC can read), and my daily use device is a Pocket PC. Because the NAS is 24/7, I have immediate access to all my data and backup files. Hopefully, future updates to the NAS firmware, Palm OS, and/or third party apps will fix the uploading problem from Palm OS devices.
I did not purchase the NAS just to share PDA data. I also use the NAS to share Windows and Macintosh data files, store all my digital photos/videos, and backups of all PDA devices.
Sorry for the lenghty response. I wanted you to be aware of a potential upload problem from a Palm OS device to a NAS since you use a Treo.
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Jim Travis
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Saturday, October 08, 2005
7:37 PM
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There are newer NAS devices that have Wi-Fi built in as well. I have not used any NAS with built in Wi-Fi, but they sound interesting.
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